This is a very controversial subject in the Hebrew Roots movements, when does the new moon start? Please post your opinion about this topic below the video. Avraham Ben Shalom the person in the video, his website is

 

26 thoughts on “When Does The New Moon Begin?

  1. Knowing Hebrew does not mean you know when the New Moon is.  I believe he is reading way too much into Genesis 1 and Exodus 12 and he is not even considering other possibilities which the New Moon may be on.

  2. How will the watchmen sight the moon from Jerusalem if it is the conjunction?
    makes it kind of hard to see
    pagans worship their gods on full moons Why would Yahweh make His first day of His month on those days?
     Holy and Evil does not mix!
    Shalom

  3. @ ten sum
     
    What I see you doing is taking something like a tetrad and using that as your basis for the new moon sighting.
     
    You then take the date of Sukkot and base that as the start of the month.
     
    None of which we are told to use as the begining the month.
     
    If you take a moment and look at the Hebrew lexicon not the U.S. department of Naval services for “Month” you will see that it says “the 1st crescent”
     
    Exo 12:2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
     
    Month
    H2320
    חדשׁ
    chôdesh
    kho’-desh
    From H2318; the new moon; by implication a month: – month (-ly), new moon.
     
     
    The ancient Hebrew Lexicon is
     
     – New moon: THE FIRST CRESCENT OF THE MOON as the renewal of the moon, the first day of the month.  [freq. 276] |kjv: month, new moon, monthly| {str: 2320}

  4. @ ten sum
    Another point to consider is that there is no actual “day” of concealed moon. In fact the moon stays concealed anywhere from 1.5 to 3.5 days in the Middle East. It has been proposed that the “day” of concealed moon is actually the day of conjunction (when the moon passes between the Earth and Sun). However, it was only 1000 years after Moses that the Babylonian astronomers discovered how to calculate the moment of conjunction. Therefore, the ancient Israelites would have had no way of knowing when the moment of conjunction takes place and would not have known on which day to observe “Concealed Moon Day”.

  5. I find this topic important because, in the Torah, New Moons are also a day to be observed. In fact, Paul said in Colossians not to allow others to judge you in “News Moons and Sabbaths.” I agree with this brother in that the moon has to visible. Has anyone considered full moon? Enoch is an additional source of understanding luminaries, which some do and some don’t, the New Moon is addressed.

    • The NT was written in Greek. The OT was written largely in Hebrew with parts in Aramaic. The entire OT was later translated into Greek (Septuagint).

  6. SORRY, this = ERROR (In my current understanding): FIRST, HOW would David know the NEXT day was the NMD, when conversing w/ Johnathan? Did he ‘prophecy’ that? NO. The Day after the conjunction is the New Moon Day; it is NEW-(-OR more precisely, RENEWED…) = by reason of being the 1st full day of a new month (MOON = MONTH).

  7. If you read the writings of Hebrew Gaon and Rabbim, like Saadiah and Maimonides, they comment on how the new moon feasts were determined. A few EYE WITNESSES were always required in order to consider it a new moon. EYE WITNESSES cannot see a dark moon. It was the first crescent they were looking for.

    ROSH HA-SHANAH, 2. 4—3 . 6

    “If the court itself and all Israel had SEEN the new moon and the witnesses had been examined, yet night fell before they could proclaim
    ‘It is hallowed’, then it is an intercalated month.’ If the court alone SAW it, two [of them] should stand up and bear witness before them, and then they may say, ‘It is hallowed! it is hallowed!’ If it was SEEN by three who [themselves] make up the court, two [of them] must stand up and set [two]
    of their fellows beside the single [other judge] and bear witness before them, and then they may say, ‘It is hallowed! it is hallowed!’ For no single person can be deemed trustworthy in himself.”

  8. One cannot even determine an all-dark moon — try it and it doesn’t work. And sometimes there are two days that are dark. Seeing the first sliver of light would be visible to all, and a signal. Since this is determined in the preceding night, does the next day become day#1 and a no work day? And if I understand it, we then count 7 days (or the 8th day) to be Shabbat — is this right?

  9. I’ve been studying this & here’s what I’ve learned:
    New Moon Day is the morning after a full moon first appears.
    God’s day begins at dawn & ends at dusk.

    The crescent moon 🌙 is a symbol of Allah – so it sits ill with me to say it’s the crescent.

    I’m no expert, but I do know God protects me from going too far in any direction away from Him.

  10. There are so many contradictary ideas about when the new moon is that I am just getting frustrated! Enoch states that the first light of the moon is the new moon and since Yahusha trusted Enoch so much that he quoted from him many times and he took him without death to the heavenlies!

  11. In 2014, 15, and 16 we had the blood moons and total solar eclipses occurring on Moedim dates. These HUGE signs agree with moedim dating according to the conjunction, not the sliver dates. Do you really think our Creator and Savior put signs in the sky and then get the date wrong??? Also, if the Rabbinics lose the 4 rules of postponement for changing moedim dates, then the moed are based on the conjunction, and conjunction messianics/hebroots people will be in unity with Judah… just a thought.
    Hopefully by the time of the same blood moons and total solar eclipses in 2032, 33, and 34, people will follow what our Creator and Savior show us and teach us.

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